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		<title>Duncan,  Wow, that&#8217;s great &#8211; good work&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael holloway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duncan, Wow, that&#8217;s great &#8211; good work. Thanks for bringing it full circle. I just left a comment there explaining the project as best I understand it so far. http://thestar.blogs.com/maps/2010/03/a-roundup-of-maps-elsewhere.html]]></description>
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<p>Wow, that&#8217;s great &#8211; good work. Thanks for bringing it full circle. I just left a comment there explaining the project as best I understand it so far. <img src='http://bikingtoronto.com/hub/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>http://thestar.blogs.com/maps/2010/03/a-roundup-of-maps-elsewhere.html</p>
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		<title>Hey everyone, I&#8217;ve been working on a wa&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael holloway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey everyone, I&#8217;ve been working on a way to create a biking Toronto Route Map Wiki that we can have inside the BikingToronto site. I still working on that but in the meantime I found a way to create a Data Base of routes people can use NOW. To this end I&#8217;ve created a Blog [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone, I&#8217;ve been working on a way to create a biking Toronto Route Map Wiki that we can have inside the BikingToronto site. I still working on that but in the meantime I found a way to create a Data Base of routes people can use NOW.</p>
<p>To this end <a href="http://bikingtoronto.com/michaelhollowayblog/">I&#8217;ve created a Blog here in BikingToronto</a>. My first post is a reprint from my blog: ‘Toronto Bicycling Route Mapping Wiki Project”. It explains how the Data Base of bike routes I&#8217;ve already created can be accessed and how YOU can make your own map and shortly, have it included in a Bicycle Route Map blog page here in Biking Toronto and at my blog, Michael Holloway&#8217;s FilterBlogs.</p>
<p>Hope to see you there! <img src='http://bikingtoronto.com/hub/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Here&#8217;s an example of a how we could lis&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael holloway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s an example of a how we could list user generated maps in a Biking Toronto Route Map Wiki Page Biking Toronto Bicycle Route Map Wiki West End Toronto to St Clair and Yonge Tags: safe, efficient, commute, touring, recreation, bicycle, wiki, Biking, Toronto, route, map, Click on map to view an interactive version at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Here&#8217;s an example of a how we could list user generated maps in a Biking Toronto Route Map Wiki Page</h2>
<h3>Biking Toronto Bicycle Route Map Wiki</h3>
<h3>West End Toronto to St Clair and Yonge</h3>
<p>Tags: safe, efficient, commute, touring, recreation, bicycle, wiki, Biking, Toronto, route, map,</p>
<p>Click on map to view an interactive version at SportDistanceCalculator.com</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/?id=1086#map" target="_blank"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px;text-align: center;cursor: pointer;width: 405px;height: 265px" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iovMGXiNw4M/S5ACpZ4bSQI/AAAAAAAAA3s/CguLeYjcLcs/s400/West+end+Toronto+to+Yonge+and+St+Clair+MAP.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a></p>
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<p>Michael Holloway</p>
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		<title>User Generated Bicycle Route Maps ..more&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael holloway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[User Generated Bicycle Route Maps ..more on the wiki project&#8230; Joe asked, &#8216;Is there a way to get all the routes on one map?&#8217; With the Sport Distance Calculator, No, as far as I can figure. It seems limited in several ways: 1) It doesn&#8217;t seem to have a search-able database, I had to use [...]]]></description>
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<h3>..more on the wiki project&#8230;</h3>
<p>Joe asked, &#8216;Is there a way to get all the routes on one map?&#8217; </p>
<p> With the Sport Distance Calculator, No, as far as I can figure. </p>
<p>It seems limited in several ways: </p>
<p>1)  It doesn&#8217;t seem to have a search-able database, I had to use the RSS feature to retrieve my creations. The RSS feed lists only the <a href="http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/rss.php">last 15 addresses</a>, at publishing time, 12 more posts and mine will be lost forever at the site. Weird. </p>
<p>2)  The developer <i>is</i> maintaining the site, they&#8217;ve installed a &#8216;post to Twitter&#8217; application recently &#8211; which I found handy. </p>
<p>3)  There&#8217;s is a tag feature but I haven&#8217;t figured out how/if it works. </p>
<p>4)  Generally the parameters of the thing are narrowly defined; I think it was designed as a one-off tool for single athletes to calculate how far they ran/cycled that day. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to write to the author and see if I can suggest a collaboration to build a different use-purpose map application &#8211; with all the features the Sport Distance Calculator has, plus some features that will make it a more collaborative thing. A new visioning of the product. They might be totally enthusiastic, we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>If none of this works out there is still the the vision I outlined earlier:</p>
<p>- picture of the created map linked to the Sport Distance Calculator database, labeled with-in a well thought out meme..</p>
<p>As I said before, OpenStreetMap would be ideal for here but it is One Map of the entire planet. A user there has transfered all the existing, and planned Toronto bike routes onto it. On zoom the route lines are wider than the road itself. Other users have added routes &#8211; they appear in different colours. When you see all the info already on the Toronto portion of the map the whole thing seems like a great big mess. There is a lot of info is there I just don&#8217;t know how to unpack it and send it to the right place. </p>
<p>Is there anyone with map making experience who could lend a hand with this?</p>
<p>Michael Holloway</p>
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		<title>User Generated Bicycle Route Maps  Yeste&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>michael holloway</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[User Generated Bicycle Route Maps Yesterday I left a note here in SET BUG group, about OpenStreetMap.org &#8211; a perfect medium, I said, to create a user generated bicycle route map for the GTA. After a day of study at Open Street Map I found it to be too complex for my coding abilities. The [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday I left a note here in <a href="http://bikingtoronto.com/groups/set-bug">SET BUG</a> group, about <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">OpenStreetMap.org</a> &#8211; a perfect medium, I said, to create a user generated bicycle route map for the GTA. </p>
<p>After a day of study at <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">Open Street Map</a> I found it to be too complex for my coding abilities. </p>
<p>The good news is, I went back to an application I&#8217;ve used before the Sport Distance Calculator and it has all the elements I was imagining for this project &#8211; <b>except importability</b>. </p>
<p>With the Sport Distance Calculator you can create route maps and add a paragraph that describes the route. The map is then saved with the creator’s own password (to secure it). Each map has it’s own URL.</p>
<p>Below are the URL&#8217;s for the four maps I made today. I posted them to Twitter with the #BikeTO list tag and a short description with some keywords &#8211; safe, efficient, fast, and commute &#8211; that describe what kind of route they are.</p>
<p>http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/?id=1086#map</p>
<p>http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/?id=1085#map</p>
<p>http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/?id=1084#map</p>
<p>http://www.sportdistancecalculator.com/?id=1083#map</p>
<h3>Some Ideas to take this further</h3>
<p>Biking Toronto users can create maps of their favourite ‘commute’ or ‘safe’, ‘recreation’ or ‘touring’ routes (to name a few keywords I’ve thought might make the data base accessible) and then post the URL’s here or in a specific list in Twitter.</p>
<p>I think I can create a list of images with links in them to the Sport Distance Calculator&#8217;s server. </p>
<p>Or using Bit.ly link customizers we can label the URL&#8217;s by keyword to help users search in a list &#8211; posting them on a separate page in Biking Toronto will give you a search-able database through Google et al. a well.</p>
<p>Michael Holloway</p>
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