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    Smitherman would pause Toronto's bike plan (19 posts)

  • Avatar Image Joe T. said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Mayoral candidate calling for 'time out' on creation of new bike lanes
    http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/cityhall/article/628059

    I am really disappointed in George with this.

    I know he's essentially trying to take the steam out of Rossi's campaign by agreeing with him, but he should know that the "left" in Toronto is strong and a part of it would push for him if he came out for progressive active transportation policies like bikelanes on arterial streets and rapid expansion of the bikelane network.

  • Avatar Image Todd Tyrtle said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I hear you, Joe. At the same time I'm trying to look at this with a "cup half full" sort of attitude. I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to revisit the bike plan, possibly in conjunction with the Bike Union and/or TCAT.

    And really, all of this "Oh no! We're going to stop putting in bike lanes!" talk has me rolling my eyes a little. After all, how many kms have been put in in the past few years? I'm not sure what the total was for last year but we were up to a whole 700 metres as of October. We managed 19 the year before, and in 2007, just over 7 km went in.

    If a popular mayor (OK, I'm being an optimist about peoples' impressions of a new Council/Mayor) looks at the bike plan, tweaks it intelligently and puts it forward, perhaps there could be a bit more support and political will behind its implementation.

    And finally, let me say that while I really love bike lanes, I don't find them very effective when they're used as free short-term parking. So really, so far the loss of "bike plan implementation" (a task that hasn't really even started) with door-zone bike lanes and cars parked in them is not that great a loss.

  • Avatar Image Joe T. said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Good points Todd.

    Two more things for us all to consider:

    1) As more and more people bike – promoting bikelanes will become more politically opportunistic.

    2) Politicians say lots of things during election campaigns. How many actually follow through with everything they say they are going to do?

  • Avatar Image HappyStuffing said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    JoeT

    Yes! Point well made :)

    Let us all get out there and make them politically motivated to help us.

  • Avatar Image HiMY SYeD said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I waited to see if Candidate Rossi did in fact 'hear' what I was telling him when it comes to communicating with the Cyclists in this city. Sadly, or rather matter-of-factly, that has not happened. Apparently, he'll say whatever he needs to say to somehow win the title. He seems less interested in actually doing the work of Mayor.

    Dear Biking Toronto, I need your help in formulating the cyclist part of my platform.

    I don't see anyone doing this authentically. There are many who are doing so opportunistically.

    First off where I need your help is the proposed 'Mutli-use Path' in the lower west side of Trinity-Bellwoods Park.

    It is awfully difficult to justify from my own cyclist's view why this path is absolutely necessary. It dissects a kiddie playground and wading pool from the Trinity Recreation Centre area.

    I don't like it. I understand it. I don't like this one instance of installing a multi-use path here.

    I want to oppose it strongly. Your thoughts ?

    Second, give me your wish list. I need to formulate an approach which is pragmatic and can be salable to the rest of council and committee(s) through 2011, 2012.

    Something of a people's bike plan rather than from something from on high with compromises left, right, and centre.

    If it is salable, the public will 'get' it. I will work to rally the votes on council to make it real. I want to follow through and see it become real.

    There you go,

    Forget the Mayoral candidates who've abandoned reality. These decisions will emanate from council.

    Let's create the framework for a biking strategy for this city, and make it city-wide.

    Biking Toronto, will you help me out?

    HiMY SYeD

  • Avatar Image Joe T. said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I've gleaned from Yvonne Bambricks twitter account (http://twitter.com/yvonnebambrick) that she has met with both Rossi and Smitherman in the last couple of months, but I haven't seen anything regarding what came out of those meetings.

    It would be nice if a candidate recognized that having a grid-like bikelane network (which is the concept behind the current BikePlan) to help anyone get from anywhere to anywhere in the city quickly and easily is worth pursuing.

  • Avatar Image said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I read that story about Smitherman last night and was really disappointed. I had a similar response as the Bike Union (little has been done so far and the plan needs to be implemented). However, I see what you're saying, Todd. Perhaps it's naive, but maybe what he's saying is true – that the plan's been around for almost 10 years, things have changed and a new plan is needed. And the discourse around bike lanes has become toxic. Many feel bikes and bike lanes are being imposed on them and it might get more support if bike lanes are part of a "more comprehensive transportation strategy." I'd like to know where he stands on the University plan.
    At least he (and he's the only candidate so far) that knows that the Sherbourne lane is terrible ("corduroy"!). And it's nice that he says, "In terms of suggesting bicycles should be relegated to crescents and cul-de-sacs, this is akin to saying you're not in favour of the City of Toronto being a modern city."

    On the other hand, maybe he's just saying all these 'let's calm down' things and won't follow through if/when he's mayor. It's hard not be cynical.

  • Avatar Image said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    HiMY SYeD: I'm not sure I follow. Isn't there already a path (two even) where one is being proposed?
    Google Street view:
    http://bit.ly/a8K1bD

    Here's the city's info on it:
    http://www.toronto.ca/cycling/public-consultations/trinity-bellwoods.htm

  • Avatar Image HiMY SYeD said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Mark,

    Yes, there are already paths around the playground area.

    It's likely everyone here has biked or walked along them at some point.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/dontpaveourpark/

    The above petition came about during the Friends of Trinity Bellwoods park winter meeting which was held immediately after the public consultation literally in the room next door.

    I was able to listen to as many view points on this proposed multi-use path as was possible.

    Had a proper safe bike lane network already exist around the park, as a cyclist myself, I would take that instead of using the park as a short cut when I am in 'commuter' mode.

    When just cycling for fun and enjoyment in the park, that is different and not what I understand is the FTBP objection.

    Your thoughts?

  • Avatar Image said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    HiMY SYeD: Just spent an hour or so down in Trinity-Bellwoods… brought the maps of the plans and took some photos. I'll post the photos and my thoughts on my blog and let you know when I do.

  • Avatar Image michael holloway said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I just followed him the other day. I haven't read anything on this but here, but I think Joe you are right about the tactics.

    It's the Ontario Liberal two-step, I've been watching McGuinty doing it for a couple of years now: back down on the neo-con issues, you can't win the double speak battle in the dumbed down media who have replaced reporting with cheaper spectacle side shows. And then once you sneek in do progressive policy. I like it… But what kind of democracy do we have when those trying to do the right thing have to hide it from the howling reactionaries so the majority intuit their intentions?

    As a thought experiment I'm thinking of doing the same as them – but from my point of view – as an elector: I'll say I've voting for the progressive ticket but then actually vote for right wing nut jobs – will that get me a progressive city council?

    Spock-ian logic can sometime blow up in your face.

    Mark me down as undecided on Mr Smitherman right now.

    Michael Holloway

  • Avatar Image SD-B59 said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Joe, I believe he is as you say, trying to take the air out of Rossi's campaign. I really believe this bike lane issue was going to end up being what the whole race would be about, much like Millers was about the airport.
    You say that the left would come out in full support of George if he did come out strongly for such bike lanes.
    I don't personally think that there are enough people that could put him into office IF this did in fact become a race between Toronto and the suburbs which it was shaping up to be.
    I may not care for George but hes politically very smart I think to take this tactic for, after all, he wont be able to do anything at all if he doesn't win and end up in office.
    I think he might be less concerned about standing up for his principles, than winning for if he wins, that is the time he will likely put forth what he believes then.
    Quite recently I used to be very close to someone very powerful behind him and have no doubt that man is the one advising George as to what he should do and say. Although i haven't ever discussed the notion of bike lanes with this person, knowing him as I do, I imagine he would be pro bike lanes.

    Now, all that said, its still very early in the campaign and I am still hoping, perhaps less so with each passing week, that there is a star yet to be discovered within this race. Someone who we have not yet heard the one word, or one statmet that will put them on the map and change the outcome of the race between the two contenders at the moment.

  • Avatar Image Anthony said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Smitherman is sounding like he's taking a page out former Councillor Case Oates' play book; he is searching for a diplomatic way to delay, or even kill, the implementation of the Bike Plan. Smitherman is also sounding like he is reacting to Rossi rather than being proactive on this issue, as well as on other issues.

    If there were truly a 'war on the car' going on, then it sounds like he's asking for a ceasefire; just at the very time that we've making some, albeit slow, progress — Is this because cyclists are actually (being perceived as) a threat?

    We are nine years into a ten year plan, but we only have 40% of the infrastructure completed. This year we're expected to get another 30km of trails, and — at most — 30km of new bike lanes approved. We still have 600km to go… A moratorium is not that different than the snail's pace we already have.

    In addition, other cities, like Chicago, stole Toronto's Bike Plan and actually started implementing it. Now other cities look around and see Chicago doing stuff with cycling, and they think that the plan actually came from Chicago. Back in 1995 the city of Toronto was a leader in cycling, now we're not even a player with the big boys. Yet we're the ones who invented the Bike Plan that the leading cities are using; we just never got around to doing anything with it.

    Year after year City Council has repeatedly decreased and/or suppressed the cycling promotion budget. Is Smitherman looking to put out some short-term propaganda to promote the idea of bike lanes? Or is he earnestly going to promote the idea of year-round urban cycling for transportation, recreation and tourism, including its bike lanes and the rest of the bike plan, with proper and sustained cycling promotion funding?

    A plan provides both a goal, or destination, as well as something to deviate from. The City's Bike Plan has been more of the "something to deviate from" kind of plan. In some ways the Bike Plan has been opportunistic about the placement of bike lanes (like Jarvis). At the same time this flexibility has allowed itself to be delayed or diverted (like Horner). A more firm plan would lose all of these opportunistic opportunities, but it really could help put the implementation on track; the risk here is that it would be totally the wrong track.

    Every Council would like to make it's own plans. But the reality is they never have enough time to work with all of the city's divisions, react to day-today matters, and budget for the existing plans. In the three or four years that a Council sits, it is really lucky of they get to make one plan for one division during their term. The reality is that staff do most of the planning and the Councillors take most of the credit. The other reality is that all of the City's plans are constantly evolving.

    One thing that Smitherman really sounds like he is really attempting to articulate is increasing the integration of the Cycling Program and Bike Plan within Transportation services, and in particular, it's planning department. What I find fascinating is how Dan Egan said last night that this integration is already happening, and is continuously increasing, within Transportation Services. Dan mentioned two specific examples of this increased integration last night when he and Lukasz were talking about the state of good repair and the timing for installation of approved Bike lanes, specifically the integration with construction (ie Capital Works) and operations. Transportation planning staff are already including cycling infrastructure in their plans.

    Another consideration to realize here is that the TTC does it's own public transit planning, and these plans are only sometimes in sync with the city's larger transportations goals and plans. This is largely a budget constraint issue, but there are other factors and priorities that the TTC has to manage.

    The one criticism that I have of our own bike plan, and the only thing that I would change about it immediately, is its modest goal of wanting to only double the number of trips made by bicycle. This goal was achieved long ago, and we should be looking at regional and city-wide targets of the ratio of bike trips, that is modal share. That is I'd like the bike plan to have an ambitious goal of trying to get 20% of all trips in the city made by bicycle in ten years, with 50% of all trips in the core done by bike. And if this is what Smitherman's talking about then I'd be all for it. But I'm not sure that he's articulating this well right now, or if this is even within his understanding yet.

    Me, I can't be sure what to make of Smitherman. He wants to position himself as being different than Rossi; yet his proposed 'moratorium' would have exactly the same effect as Rossi's.

    One thing is sure to me. Few, if any, of the outside candidates truly seem to understand how cycling fits into our transportation system, or into our communities. My last question: Is the point he's trying to make simply that he doesn't understand the value of cycling to our community and to our city?

  • Avatar Image Joe T. said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Excellent points, Anthony. Thanks for mentioning stuff from the Committee meeting the other day… I unfortunately had to miss it.

    My "gut" tells me that Smitherman essentially just wants to take away any issues from Rossi. Smitherman is the front-runner, so if he says he supports the same things (in principle), such as stalling the bikeplan, contracting out services, etc., it takes the wind out of Rossi's sails… because if they don't differ on issues, Smitherman comes out ahead due to greater name recognition and political experience.

    If Smitherman wins, he'll find (and it's something I'm sure he already knows) that there is already a reasonable plan for all forms of transportation across the GTA – consisting of the BikePlan, TransitCity, the Airport Link, and Metrolinx initiatives.

    Most articles I've read put him as saying he'd "carefully consider" lots of things… which doesn't mean he'll do them. :)

  • Avatar Image Joe T. said 5 months, 3 weeks ago:

    I think these are Mark's photos and write-up about Trinity Bellwoods:
    http://urbantheories.blogspot.com/2010/03/trinity-bellwoods-park-response-to.html



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