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  • Posted by joe 3 years ago. There are 17 posts. The latest reply is from creator.
  1. After a pilot project, e-bikes have been declared legal in Ontario, with all the same rules as regular bikes, except that riders must be at least 16 and wear a helmet:


    • Toronto Sun: No more getting the gears for e-bikes

      The electric bike's long journey to legality is over.

      "E-bikes provide an important transportation option to Ontarians. They are affordable, green and easy to use," Transportation Minister Jim Bradley said in a release. "The McGuinty government is pleased to welcome the e-bike to Ontario's transportation mix."

      It's been three years since e-bikes were first allowed on Ontario roads as part of a pilot project. During that time, the government says its had mostly positive feedback about the machines, which can be both pedalled and powered by their small electric motor.

      Bradley has tweaked the rules on the bikes slightly, adding a ban on modifications that would allow them to travel faster than 32 km/h and requiring a maximum nine-metre braking distance at top speed.

      All previous restrictions on e-bikes will continue to apply, including a maximum weight of 120 kg. Drivers must be at least 16 and wear a helmet. Otherwise, an e-bike must follow the same rules as a regular bicycle. They're also barred from 400-series highways.

  2. This is great news. Even e-bikes are one less car.

  3. A couple more articles about it:

    CBC: Ontario expands e-bike rules

    Star: Ontario unveils e-bike rules

  4. While I don't agree that these should be in bike lanes, I certainly think this is a step in the right direction... although I still expect to see them on sidewalks North of Sheppard (I see a few a week).

    Duncan's City Ride - That's my blog about cycling in the city of Toronto, natch!
  5. Duncan... ebikes are pretty new to Toronto... much of Canada. So far we have been seeing Canadians being "sold" the scooter-style ebikes. Most of the rest of the ebike world (eg EU and USA) don't ride ebikes that look like these.

    Listen to Gary Fisher in this interview:
    Link to video interview with Gary Fisher

    Most of the world that understands anything about physics knows that (for a given amount of energy and power) the lighter a vehicle the better the acceleration, the faster the braking and the greater the range. I am confident that with time Canadian ebikers will learn this lesson. In the mean time we can't "throw out the baby with the bathwater."

    ...This is not about competing for limited bike lanes etc, it's about creating more demand and pressure for MORE infrastructure and respect for all light(er) weight and energy efficient and slow speed two wheeled traffic.

    Personally while I love the two-wheeled crowd, I am less interested in the two percent of Canada that "knows what time it is" with bicycles, and more interested in helping the other 98% who are still trapped in their 20th-century motorized carriages...

    Tks
    Lock
    human-electric hybrid pedestrian

  6. Yeah, Lock makes a good point... most "e-bikes" are more akin to electric scooters than bicycles with a motor-assist.

    They really should have to abide by the same rules as scooters / mopeds.

  7. Joe...
    They *can't* abide by those laws. They have been crippled by a 500W power limit. They're not fast enough to meld with the motorized carriages. Lots of folks on pedal bikes can travel faster than they can.
    Gas (and electric) scooters and mopeds are *far* more powerful...

    Tks
    Loc

  8. This sounds a lot like the previous restrictions on electric cars that kept them off the road as well. Not the same of course.

    Now, I'm not saying that these bikes shouldn't be on the road. And, drawing the line between a "regular looking" bicycle with e-assist and those that look like mopeds isn't something I want to do either. There is room for everyone on our roads.

    It's just my gut reaction that says there shouldn't be something in a bike lane that looks like a scooter/moped. But, as we get to see more versions of these bikes on our roads, my perception can certainly be changed. It's a matter of "unlearning" how we view public space and who "belongs" where, myself included.

    Duncan's City Ride - That's my blog about cycling in the city of Toronto, natch!
  9. I'm pretty sure they can go at the same speed of traffic (downtown, anyways)... 10 - 30 km/h. :)

  10. I'm pretty sure they can go at the same speed of traffic (downtown, anyways)... 10 - 30 km/h. :)

    True... if you swallow the hype. 32kmh max... under perfect conditions. Life ain't like that. Truth? Ya will see many riders w/"tired" lead batteries... battery packs that have been cycled (discharged and recharged 100-200 times), and depending on how well they have treated them - usually poorly - they will be losing capacity. Getting close to the end of their useful lives... Factor in off-summer ambient temperatures too... not good.

    The result? Less voltage = slower RPMs = slower speeds...

    PLUS, anyone that pedals a bike knows that a lot of the energy goes into acceleration in stop-and-go travel. No fun having to slow down/stop and restart again (see blowing through stop signs etc.) It's no different when the energy is coming from stored energy in chemical batteries... Hybrids (human-electric bikes) "benefit" greatly when the batteries are assisted by the rider pedaling from full stops. It takes that initial surge load off the battery packs...

    So when you have a "hybrid" that's poorly designed, overweight and hard to pedal, the batteries take it more "in the chin"...

    Electric vehicles are actually extremely energy efficient. The true cost per mile is measured in how fast they "eat" their batteries. I think of the batteries like tail-pipe exhaust... except that the exhaust is expelled as bricks of spent materials that *can* be recycled, versus the exhaust of the exploding infernal combustion engine that is blown into the air that we breath...

    tks

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